The Explosion of big 3 pound Bass in Roosevelt Lake part 1

hey welcome Roosevelt Lake beautiful Lake up
here you know just about 85-90 miles fromPhoenix you know it’s like 20-25 miles
long it’s just a gorgeous Lake we’re outhere it’s a middle of May right now and
I’ve got Andy Clark with me from theArizona Game and Fish Department and
what we’re gonna do today is try tocatch some fish take some samples. yep!
and prove that the fish were catchingare Florida strain large mouth. that’s right
there’s a lot of lot of folks out herewanting to know what happened with that
2014 that initial stocking of Floridastrain and and in you know some of the
stockings after that so yeah we’re gonnahopefully get you know some two three
four pounders maybe even bigger takesome thin clips put them in vials and
alcohol and then hopefully get them offin the next few months to into a lab to
have them analyzed to see what kind ofFlorida strain you know genetics they
have. right so the first part of the showwill be actually catching the fish and
having a good time you know out hereyeah and just showing folks you know
what we’re doing and then he’s got a topwater and I’m. . . I’m fish. . . Hang on a minute! I got a fish onI am fishing a Ned rig you know our show just came out yesterdayand I’m bouncing
this in 15 feet of water oh it’s aoh it is whopper too. yeah look at that. we just
did a net show at Bartlett lake and thisthis thing catches a lot of fish if you
guys if you didn’t watch his videos wedid a Bartlett you know that’s probably
a Florida no that’s that’s probably not aFlorida that’s probably a northern
strain anyway what we’re doing it we’retrying to prove you know you can’t tell
the difference between the northernstrain and the Florida strain right it’s
just DNA that’s right, yep. yep justlooking at them really really tough to
to tell the difference yeah next to impossiblewow so yeah actually we’re
gonna actually have to send those fishand we’re going to show you what we do
today how we’re gonna do a little finclipping we’re going to mark down the
vials we’re gonna weigh the fish we’regonna measure the fishand we’re gonna
do a complete. . the show is gonna be really goodyou’re gonna enjoy this show like you do
all the rest of them I get lots ofemails and texts about this but we’re
going to use a lot of different rigstoday guys we’re just we’re going junk
fishing just to catch fish and fish havebeen biting up here and of course that
one we just caught one was a small onebut we promise we will get you some
better fish this afternoon you knowSo we missed the morning. didn’t we kind of got here lateso come along with us andwe’ll take off and we’ll go up the lake
a little bit we’ll just start stop herestop there stop on these points and acts
you guys know that these little pointsthat are behind me are really good for
fishing so maybe I’ll drop this trollingmotor and just hit these a couple times
sowe’ll just kind of get busy here andwe’ll start fishing see what happensso
we’re just throwing up these top watersand Andy’s got a Rico on and I’ve I’ve got
a gun fish on so on I’m walking the dogand and after the Sun comes up if you
are very very careful and you are realslow you can catch these fish even after
the Sun comes upbut it’s it’s slow andtedious on the top water because you
just got to work it a little bit andthen you just kind of. . . and the points are
probably the best area to go you know ifwe’re just kind of going out over there
like on these points you can you can seethat you just kind ofwork it out. . . Dave
could probably get a better shot at thisit’s a good fishwe may have to get the net
for this one guys. that’s a good one huhyeah this is a good oneOh ain’t that good but it’s a nice fishwhoa that’s a good top water fish
alrightso bring it back my waythere we are!yeah! that’s good onethat’s a good one to fin clip right? you bet!this is what we are after folks. we are after theselittle bit better bass and we want to
find out are these the Florida strainlargemouth so let’s just go ahead and
we’ll fin clip this and and do our workon this so I’ve got a pen a pen and
pencil Andy’s got the their specialvials under there you know they
jump like that a lot of times that getoff but that one wouldn’t got off so
what we’re gonna do is I’m gonna use myruler that I that I havethat I measure fish onso this is going to be fish number one. Andy. Yep!so this has got R0SS-1okay so we’re looking at 14 and 3/4
exactly there’s number one is 14 and 3/4all rightso we’re gonna weigh this fish
14 and 3/4what are we looking at is 1 71 pound 10 ounces 110 okay so the fish
weighs 1 pound 10 ounces okay so we’llsit there and then mark 110 downall
right we’re just gonna clip part of hispectoral fin these little side fins here
not this one but just yeah just enoughfor like your the your your pinkie so
it’s not gonna hurt him and no so we’lldo about like this which isthat’s still
quite a bit but what you don’t want totouch it yeah I don’t want to touch it
okay so yeah just keep it still if you canthat’s all you need that’s all we do
huh just and then the fins in thereright that vial oh and it’s a special
solution in there they’re usingright that’s right no it’s this is just
one percent ethanolOh it isthere it is now it is thereyou can touch it but it. makes itcleaner yes not yep if you don’t get allyour the oils in your hand and stuff on it. look at the
color on this fish how beautiful any soI’m gonna let this one go so so then
this is all this will go to thelab and they’ll analyze the DNA and
we’ll see if we’ve moved the needle onthe on the Florida strain at
Roosevelt. 00S one S yep two O’s 1S got it and number
one yep okay. that’s itok so we got themarking on the vial yep from that yep so
that ties it to that length and weightokay so this is what we’re doing we’ve
measured it we record it there are no 1pound 10 ounces yep not quite two a
nice healthy fish I mean sometimes Ijudge those is a closer to a 2 pounder
but that’s not too far but not too farno you know not too far so hopefully we
can get some you know closer to threeyou know and better yet a four just to
see you know if that 2014 age classescoming up in you know everybody wants to
knowhigh five nice job Garryfish number 1 yep!and here is what I used folksthis is a gunfishit’s an old bait I’ve had this bait for
oh my gosh 15-20 years but it catchesfish it really does for a top water like
it’s it’s 7:30 guys in the morningusually everybody says hey the top water
by it’s over you know but I was justworking it real slow you know just off
the rocks here we haven’t started thebig motor folks were right off Choya so
we’re just we’re just fishing the rocksand stuff and he came out of about 10 15
feet of water now came up and ate it sokind of gives you a little bit of hope
yeah yeah let’s see if I can take one onyeah will take one the Rico yeah see if
you can get one on the Rico we need toget back so it’s just a slow slow you
know working that bait and because I wasquite a ways off but look what I was over
that point yeah yeah so there’s allkinds of structure that come out. yeah but it
drops off pretty good here I got a lotof marks on my. . yeah. a lot of marks on my. . . there you go. one thing too is you’re
using your whole arm like this you knowoh you already had one come upyou got him! whoa! you got him whoooa! Oh ya!AC is on the board!it’s a good sized one!it’s that same one you caught I do think it is I thought it was a real little one but he is ahe’s fighting pretty goodwe might have fish number two oh ya! look at this one guysanother nice fish might be right at 2
huh that’s close just lift that right upand we won’t get it all hooked in the
net yep thanksalright so we got fish number twoI bet
he’s pretty close huh yeah I’m gonna getthe pliers. yeah that is always betterhere we were talking right. yeah
we’re talking we’re not even fishing andtalk about leaving the bait sit
there yep yeah it hit justright as it hit the water and I and I
just hit it you know one little time andthen it just sat there and then BOOMhe hit it!let’s go ahead and lift that up I got
all my stuff in thereand you get the vial what we are going to do is do our joblet me have this I will start on this partthis one is exactly 14 inches long number two14
inches, 14 inches should be to 2 poundsif you go by the book no, no I have the weights right hereoh ok!so 14 inches says hereone pound seven and a half ounces so you
got a break you got a break 15 inches toget according to that so what we’re
gonna do is just weigh this thing herecome on scale battery must be low on
thisthere it goes now it’s blinkingit’s clear test zero clip that
on what are you looking at 1 pound 4ounces is that right you have 1 pound 4 &
3/4 ouncesso it weighs a little bit
more. so it’s almost 1 pound 5. yepso we’ll mark one pound five ounces. yep
we need a thin clipping yep so we’lljust take a clip you know that’s a
little bit biggerSo we did R00S number two vial. yep so nice little
nice little bass pretty colors a nice littlefin there yeah all right hey we both
got a we both got a fish like thislittle baby go well they take off don’t
they run the shallow you want to. . . sohere we go two top water fish in 10 minutes just coming off the rocks hereyep!good joblet’s keep on goingwe are going to do another high 5 yeah! alright guys soAndy’s still throwing the top water
we’ve each got one on the gun fish whichis a walking bait and Andy’s got one on
a popper little Rico I’m gonna try abrush hog I caught some the other day on
this brush hog and I just have a 3/16ounce on there a 2 ought hook and watermelon
candy kind of my usual but Andy and I were talking aboutjust how
slow you have to work that top water youknow what it’s the same way with this
bait they don’t want to chasebaits very much you know so I’m just
gonna throw that out let it go to thebottom so we’re kind of getting in a
flatter area guys so we may have to turnaround and and hit look at that there’s
a school of shad right there that justby your bait. oh boy yeah. That’s good sign it’s just a cloud of themjust a cloud of then. that’s real goodwhen you see shad that active on your graphor in the water like that boy
I’ll tell you those bass are close bythey are not far behind they are always real
close so I’m just gonna flick out tooso I’m seeing some fish on the on the
graph but when I when I throw this onright now
I’m just gonna let it sit there for aminute the same as a top water
the longer you and why I don’t knowwhy those fish are just being so lazy but
we’re in that off period it’s it’s coolto eat right now
those fish ate really good we got a halfmoon coming up right now so they they’re
notthey’ve already ate and so they’re
sitting back watching TV you know that’sthe way I see it you know so you got to
kind of trick them into. . . maybe bitingthere are always one or two that are still turned
on you never know yep yeah there’sthere’s a few that are so what we’re
going to do is we’re going to go rightoh there’s a bite!there he is! got himnice!oh ya!brush hog fish brush hog oh yeah whoaspecimen number threewhoooa!!! want the net?just in case yawe do not know whatwe’re getting. oh good catch!yeah I am a fish biologist that’s about the samelook how he is putting on weight alreadythat is nicethey’re so healthy aren’t they yesthey are
yep so we just kind of measure thisjust to see? yeah. I think we’re probably got. . yeah I think we’ve got a coupleexactly like that. I do too. yeah so we want
something biggeryeah so a least want to put him on the boardyeah just for giggles, lets just put him on and seeI am going to guess he is 14 inches same as yours. so what we do is I have a bump board here I use in mytournaments folks now this one is 14 and
a quarter exactly so we have a 14 inchor so yeah we got that already we’re
we’re looking for a bigger bass we’relooking for the 15, 16, 17, 18 inches you
know but yeah just a gorgeous gettinggaining after these are all post-spawn
fish they’ve already laid their babiesor the males and done their thing and
now they’re out here porking up you knowputting weight back on yep Wow looking
good yeah all right so you ready to dump the top waterand put on a brush hog?ya come on Garry Andy wants a brush hogso we are gonna just show the folks just what I do to do thisso he has fluorescent line on hereI do not use fluorescent line but thiswill be a good test for you to see if
those fish will hit this this is kind ofline folks you use at night with
fluorescent bulbs. yep backlight soall I’m gonna do is just put a quarter
ounce weight on here this is gonna bereal easy just slide that on I’m not
even gonna peg it folks at allthat’s a bullet. it’s a bullet wieght tungsten
all right so I’m gonna go and let meshow you something as I look at this
hook looking at it I’m going to bendthis to my leftall I’m doing is just
putting a little bit of a twist to itthree degrees that’s all that will give
him a better hook set okay so I alwaysput the hook towards me get a better
hook set that way I’m always looking forthat better hook setso I’m gonna I’m
gonna throw a Palomar knot on this okayso I’m gonna get enough. . . enough line out
about five six inches I went through oneway now I’m coming back the same wayonce you tie these you getso this thing is just sliding up like this
you know I got to tag in on this lefthand and over here on the right I got
this I’m just gonna tie an overhand knotthat’s all I’m doing that was a shad did you hear that! okay so just anice easy knot passed the bait the hook
through the loop get that nice andstraight just put a little wet on there
pull that nice and easy so it doesn’tburn your linethere it is. so you can
clip this pretty closelike thatyou get a little bit of slippage with that line but not much
yeah it’s not much slippage with it yeplet’s get Andy aha brush hog outI think I might have a couple bags and bagsyeah so this is a this is like
a watermelon candy is what it is it’s areally pretty pretty bait
I like this is one of my more favoriteones and it’s watermelon and it’s got
the nice pretty blue in there see thatsparkles gold and I’m just gonna go in a
quarter of an inchup on the keeper partof that it’s real basic guyslike that
now the trick is keeping this bait asstraight as you can get it so what you
want to do is just bend it up a littlebit and put it on there straight just
like this that’s all there is to it and Texas rigso we’ll put that over there
and we’ll go to worklooks like the old lizardyeah a lizard would probably would too rightwhat we are going to do is. . . Gosh there is still a lot of fish here Andy this is going to be the same thingwe’re just gonnaDave said because we are in the rocks hereand there’s still a
lot of uh. . . holy mackerel now thatthat’s a little bit heavier weight. yeah it
really is like I’m using a 3/16 a littlebit lighter so if you get if you get
started getting hung up a lot we canI’m gonna throw out a little bit deeper I’ve
been catching my Texas rig fish aroundten foot okay down 10 to 20so what I am doing I letit go out let it sink and I hold my line
up like 12 o’clockand then90 percent of the time and this
is a pretty big percent ninety percentof time that fish if he sees it going
down he’s gonna hit it yeah so you wantto have your line pretty close to
watching it go down yeahand I’ll let Andy explain how long ago was it when we
stock those just you stalked thoseinitial stocking
yeah and that was the thing you know alot of these fish were brought in
70s 80s you know even earlier but theywere brought in we don’t know what you
know how much Florida strain was in themthey were hybrids to begin with you know
because we didn’t stock pure strainFlorida until here right. right
and so we’ve stocked the Florida’s downsouth you know in a few of those smaller
lakes but so a lot of those fish whatI didn’t I don’t think hit on when we were
at the hatchery very well Gary was thatyou know those genes will express
themselves when the conditions favor that. so something about you know
Pleasant especially when it was fillingup you know 93, 94 people were catching
10. . . 12 pounders! all the timeoh yeah ! I was too. I think I caught like 5 fish over 10 pounds. in a matter of three or four
years they were growing at huge rateyou know and a lot of that was just
the new lake effect you know there’s alot of nutrients and and all that stuff
in there and and things were reallypopping and things were growing fast but
you know we’ve we did some tests thesame time we tested the bass from here
we did all around the state and thosefish from Pleasant came back you know
right around 60% with the Floridainfluence to them so you know something
there is favoring those genes that comeout as well and like you’re saying
lately folks have been catching somereally nice fish out of there so this is
a question asking and nobody knows thesequestions but you because you deal with
all your biologists and all your guys inthe office yeah so these fish say some
of these come back and they test ahundred percent and they’re two and a
half three pounders mm-hmm what happenswhen that pure Florida mates with the
northern strain bass when you guys testthose that can you tell half of its of
Florida and half of its in northern yeahhave you ever done that? yep yep so you’ll be able to
those genetic tests will be able to tellhow much influence certain alleles it’s
kind of a biological term but certainalleles there’s there’s Florida strain
alleles that are more common with theFlorida strain and then there’s alleles
that are more common with the Florida’sor the northern strain
and so and they’re just they’rebasically just characteristics right
maybe it’s the color like to quit it tohumans maybe it’s the color of our skin
or hair or how tall we grow you knowit’s kind of the scent it’s kind of a
similar thing so you know you can tellwhen we do these genetic tests and we
say well there’s about 50% Floridainfluence that’s what I’m talking about
is okay when you run those those allelesit’ll it’ll come back well there’s about
50% of the Florida in you know influencealleles and about 50% northern so so
yeah if we were to you know if a hundredpercent Florida female was to was to
mate with a hundred percent northernmale you would conceivably have
offspring that had 50/50. right, right. but you know genetics doesn’t work that way
there’s probably some spread in therebut you know the key is for those to get
enough pure Florida’s in here thatthey’re just mating with 100% so that
what I mean by moving that needle isYou know there’s got to be more and more
pure Florida’s in here to move thosealleles towards you know 60, 70, 80
percent eighty percent about our goalfor the the trophy that the hog bass
waters so you know if we can get it to80 percent in our hog bass waters
Roosevelt’s one of them that’s whatwe’re thinking we’re gonna start
breaking state records and making newstate records right right so that’s your
goal is yep we’re building this into atrophy bass Lake you knowthis is a
threadfin shad so when you buy yourlures companies try to mimic this silver
on the sides green greenish black on thetop and how many times you guys see that
little black dot on the crankbaitsthis is exactly what those those
companies are doing you know Rapala shadwraps, square bills little but you could
see that green on the top and what thatlooks like and I mean I could get it in
my box right there and show you luresthat look identical to this now if we could
find aa ah. . what’s the other shad. . . gizzard shad. the gizzard shad
my gosh they’re like. . . . some of them are. . But you know they start out that way so that’s really
hard to tell. I mean it’s true. to definitivelysay that’s that’s not a gizzard I mean
chances are that’s a threadfin yeahman when they’re that size it’s really
really tough to tell them apart rightyou know until it’s true but those
gizzards will get from that size to yayou know seven to eight inches just like that! in a year? well no in like several weeksthey’re growing like that!and that was what we were so worried aboutwhen gizzards got in here was the large
mouths weren’t gonna be you know able toutilize them because they grew out of
this perfect size so fast Wow so but nowmaybe we’ve got enough bigger large
mouths that they’re able to get thosethose ten inchers you know what I mean and eat themyeah last week I caught a couple two and
a half’s yeah pound fish and I wasthinking northern Florida he had that he
had a gizzard shad in there six inchesseven inches long and I were two gizzard
shad because they have that real Forkand these have their real forked tail to
right don’t theyyep they really are young they they both
have this yeah these things don’t getsome of them will get four or five
inches yeah I mean a big big thread finsfive. . . five inches, five, six inches thats about there max size yeah
whereas those those gizzards there thereare only several months old and they’re
five inches I mean that’s they growreally fast let’s put him back in there
because you know what folks then thebirds will come up they’ll eat thatthere’s one one right there! Alright you got himhe is in whoa!boy he is pulling tothere’s a another one by him yeah he’s coming up
Dave is trying to follow him on the cameraoh we got color!ther he is!oh ya!that’s a little bit heavierAndy look at this oneI think he’s about the same length. . net?you know why he felt good. . . you got him right on the. . he is a little bitlonger. . but he is still 14 inches long yep that’s a nice
little bass about a pound and a halfthey’ve got some like that so all they
hoping to catch a few more good jobso let’s just let him go
so folks what we’re doing is we’re wegot a theoryhim and I were talking and. . . what happened is they’re biting it and
if you don’t set the hook right awaythey’re gone they’re spitting it so we
solved that mystery spray! I don’t carewhat kind of spray you spray spray it
and boy I’ll tell you as soon as yousprayed it so that one hang onyeah as so as it hung on itit toke it toohe did not spit it outwe got a good one here folksnice little fat onewhoa! got him? he’s a lively one oops!there we go!nice. yeah!a little bit bigger one just a hair. whoops
got the net on that too. here we gothe hook came out of his mouth into the
net of the net yeah yeah look at thisso I’m all wrapped up with this guyhere we goyeah get yoursI am going to get mine out of the water hereI do not know if this will. . well bet ourour other one but we will suremeasure him we may have one this big
but we’ll find out real quickthis would be about the right size but now this
one’s 15 so go you want to test himsure yeah let’s do itso we’re gonna do
vial number three rightwe are going to do 15 inches and we’re going to weigh
them it’s important1. 10 so we have one 1. 10
that’s 14 and 3/4 but this is a littlebit longer he just you could tell he’s
just a little bit skinnier mm-hmm OSnumber three rightsohe is sticking his fin out. right out for usit go downor is caught. there it isthere it is. number three test vial number threealright so we’re gonna let this guy goyou know what looking at all those fish
in 18, 19, 20 feet of water and it’s hardto get those to. I know you switched to
a drop shot but usually they’re just alittle bit bigger you know so if you can
catch em. you did! yeplook at thatthat was a pretty good. That was a pretty good queue there. well
you got one cuz I got the net does he feel goodit looks pretty good. Yeah!is it a little bit
heavier I think he’s a little bit biggerthan what we have been catching. we need
one a little bit biggerhe kind of went under the boatI got the net so we don’t take off all his slimeoh yeah look at that one that’s a nice oneoh yeah get him in the net. . oh!oh yeah that’s alrightthat what we needed. you put us on the spot we were just talking about moving. I was just sayingwhy don’t we just moveI will let you get downand we’ll process this one all right
look what he caught him on folks a nonmorning dawn this is called a bold blue
gill and we put a four inch on four anda half can you grab that so I can yeah
get rid of that one and we’ll throw himover the side like that all right
yep and then you come on up over hereyou get your vial I’ll go ahead and get
the we got a routine down yep you knowmarking these things down he gets the
vial up that’s that’s getting up there Idon’t good once I guess over two pounds
seventeen and a half inches longnice that’s a little bit bigger yeah
number four seventeen and a half andI’ll go ahead and weigh this one can you
clip him while you’re doing that okay yeahyeah you can clip them and I’ll weigh
emwell that’s a big finisn’t thatthere’s lot. . . boy that’s a lot of fin on thata good generic example thereya!you do that have to cut very much do you. that very much. do you. I am taking way more than I needlet this scale catch up with mevials are
nice they’ve got a O ring to them sothe alcohol don’t leak2. 11alright almost 32. 11 alright almost perfectthat’s a nice one that’s four rightR00S 42. 11 alright2 pounds a 11 ouncesR00S 4let’s let that nice one goyep!that could that could be a
three-year-old Florida that could be go on down

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